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Larson “Mob” photo revisited

Sunday, November 22nd, 2009

In an earlier post, I put up a recently discovered photo of a large group of (mostly?) Larsons, taken in August 1917. I even ventured a few guesses as to the identity of some individuals. After long study and comparisons, I am changing one or two of those guesses, and adding a few more. However (to repeat myself), I am not very good at this, so take it all with a grain of salt, and chime in with any guesses or critiques you wish. Click on any of these photos for an enlarged rendition.

Group 1-A

Group 1-A

1917Group1-B

Group 1-B

Group 2

Group 2

Groups 1-A and 1-B must have been taken just seconds apart. All the same people, with one exception, in the same arrangement. Group 2 has most of the same people, with several missing, three added, and  all rearranged.

Let’s start with the Larson boys, Lovell and Walt. I think we can all agree that they are #30 and 31, although which one is which is not quite so clear. I’m leaning toward #30 for Lovell.

Next, the four Larson men: Axel (2), Isaac (6), Oscar (10), and Olaf (14), and one spouse I am pretty confident of, Anna (22) *(caveat at end of post). I am now convinced that the photo below (long familiar from my mother’s collection, and also included in Lucy’s albums) was taken on the same occasion, not least because the four  men are wearing the same clothes (sans hats).

Probable date: 1917

Probable date: 1917

Two Larson children are identified by labels on other photos in Lucy’s album: Edna (Kohlstead, Louise’s 13-year-old daughter, #29), and Lenora Larson (25). Also identified this way are Edna’s two companions, Ruth (26) and Lois (29), last names and relationships unknown as yet.

Let’s show those thumbnails again, and go a little further out on a limb:

Group 1-AGroup 1-A
1917Group1-B

Group 1-B

Group 2

Group 2

Four semi-wild guesses based on comparison with at least one other photo: Mina Larson (19, or possibly 4), Inar Amundson (3), Emily Hart Amundson (18), and Mary Hart Larson (13). Note the resemblance between 13 and 18 when they are standing close together in Group 2. Finally, the small children, based on their apparent age and association: Harvey Larson (1), Neva Larson (33 – appears only in group 2), Norman Amundson (20), and Glenn Amundson (24).

Wilder yet, I think I may have spotted one Samuelson in there, which could imply there are others. I’ll go into that in a later post, as well as responding to the many comments I hope to receive on this one.

* Vernon Larson was born 23 July 1917, less than a month before the labeled date of the above photo. So why isn’t the baby there, if Anna and Isaac both are? Below is a picture from the following winter:

Winter 1917-18

Winter 1917-18

Again, you can click on the photo to enlarge. It’s a long shot, but maybe Tom Moen is in that mob photo too! Stay tuned.

Group 1-A

Group 1-A

1917Group1-B

Group 1-B

Group 2

Amundsons, Part III

Tuesday, November 17th, 2009

In part I, we summarized the birth records of Inar Amundson’s parents, Ole Amundsen and Petronille Rasmusdatter. In addition to their records, and Inar’s, I have found some of his grandparents and great-grandparents:

Inar's pedigree

Inar's pedigree

In narrative form, Ole Amundsen’s parents:

Amund Olsen age 25, Thore Evensdatter, age 32; m. 29 Dec 1845, Grue, Hedmark, Norway
Residence: Strømsnaes (groom), Bakken ___ Ron___? (bride)
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=9156&uid=ny&idx_side=-312

Amund Olsen, b. 02 Jun 1820, Sola, Grue, Hedmark, Norway,
christened 18 Jun 1820, Grue, Hedmark, Norway
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=9154&uid=ny&idx_side=-59
Father: Ole Amundsen, Mother: Pernille Olsdatter

No luck yet on birth of Thore

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Amund Olsen’s parents:

Ole Amundsen, age 26, res. Sola; Pernille Pedersdatter (not Olsdatter), age 28, res. Evensrud
m. 18 Nov 1819, Grue, Hedmark, Norway
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=9154&uid=ny&idx_side=-203

Ole Amundsen, b ? Sola, Grue, Hedmark, Norway
chr. 1 Jan 1794, Grue, Hedmark, Norway
Father: Amund Gundersen; Mother: Kari Olsdatter
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=9152&uid=ny&idx_side=-38

Pernille Pedersdatter, b. ? Oppie?, Grue, Hedmark, Norway
chr. 24 Jul 1791, Grue, Hedmark, Norway
Father: Per Persen; Mother: Berte Olsdatter
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=9151&uid=ny&idx_side=-280

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Petronelle Rasmusdatter’s parents:

Rasmus Pedersen, age 22, Marthe Olsdatter, age 23, m. 01 Nov. 1829, Lier, Buskerud, Norway
Residence (both) Skjaastad. Groom’s father:
Peder Olsen; bride’s father: Ole Haagensen
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8446&uid=ny&idx_side=-223

Rasmus Pedersen, b. 14 Feb. 1808, Justad Eie, Lier, Buskerud, Norway
chr. 21 Feb. 1808, Lier, Buskerud, Norway
Father: Peder Olssen; mother: Ane Xtophersdr. (Christophersdatter?)
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8440&uid=ny&idx_side=-136

Marte Olsdatter, b. 2 Jan 1806, Sylling, Lier, Buskerud, Norway
chr. 12 Jan 1806, Lier, Buskerud, Norway
Father (Unwed): Ole Haagensen, soldier at no. 6 company at Fridhald (Fredrikshald i.e.Halden)
Mother: Eli Nilsdatter Sylling. It was his 1st and her 3rd (illeg. Child).
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8440&uid=ny&idx_side=-112

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Rasmus Pedersen’s parents:

Peder Olsen, cavalry soldier (“Dragon“=“dragoon”), Anne Christophersdatter, m. 28 Feb 1790, Lier, Buskerud, Norway. Residence: Justad. No further info in churchbook record
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8439&uid=ny&idx_side=-157

The churchbooks go back another 100 years or more, but I will leave the Amundsons here for a while. Next: New immigration info for the Slettens and the Moens.

Amundsons, part II

Friday, November 6th, 2009

I found a little follow-up info on Inar Amundson and family. They departed Oslo, destination Quebec, on 14 July 1893, according to Oslo police emigration protocols.

There were papa Ole Amundson age (stated) 46, wife Petra (instead of Petronelle), 51, Martha, 11, Elizabeth, 10, Einar, 7, and Anna (sic), 5. As usual their ages are only approximate. From their birth records, Einar would be 9 years old, not 7, and Ole 47, not 46. They left Norway (presumably for England) on the steamship Angelo, the same ship that carried some of the Slettens, and Helene Olsdatter, in 1881. More interestingly, they were *all* listed with the surname of Amundsen, the earliest records I have found that broke with the long-held naming customs of Norway, in favor of the more modern usage of surnames. Decades later, the change was mandated by Norwegian law. That’s all I have so far on their journey.

In the 1900 US census, James River Valley, ND, Anna’s name has changed to Amelia. The two eldest sisters are gone from the home. Also, Millie told me there was another older sister, Sara, who stayed behind in Norway.

1900

1900

Later on,  Ole and Petra moved to northwestern Washington state, near Marysville; the censuses of 1920 and 1930 corroborate that. Maybe this was part of the attraction of later generations to the West Coast. Besides two of Isaac Larson’s boys moving to Longview, so did Glenn and Ray Amundson, as mentioned earlier. Coming now to my own generation, here I am at age four, with my cherished playmates, the four Amundson girls.

1951AmundsonGirls

I believe Karen (Ray’s daughter), the youngest, is on the left, then Marilyn and Ardith (Glenn’s), on the right is Kathy (Ray’s elder). We were not aware of the grandparental relationship at the time, and struggled to inventory just how we were “related.” We traced an even more circuitous route via our parents. My uncle Vernon Larson married Audrey Walker. I don’t know the Walker family’s history, except that Audrey’s sister, Lorraine Walker, married Glenn Amundson. So Marilyn and Ardith, while not biologically related to me, are my cousins’ (Vernon’s children’s) cousins. One step further out are Kathy and Karen, my “cousins’ cousins’ cousins!” Talk about extended family!

Next: Who do you take after?

Amundsons, part I

Tuesday, November 3rd, 2009

Inar Amundson’s homestead was just one mile north of Oscar’s and Isaac’s. As cousin Lois pointed out in a comment the other day, the Amundsons and Larsons are “related” by marriage, specifically the marriages of Oscar Larson to Mary Hart, and of Inar Amundson to Emily Hart, Mary’s sister. It seems increasingly likely that there are Amundsons in those crowd pictures from Aunt Lucy. I even found Inar and Emily’s wedding notice on the Web.

The Beach Advance, Beach, Golden Valley Co, North Dakota, April 24th, 1914

Inar Amundson and Miss Emily Hart were united in marriage in this city Monday noon, April 20th, by Judge R. O. Zollinger in the presence of the bride’s sister and Ernie Hatch. The young couple reside about 45 miles north of here and left for their home Tuesday morning. The Advance extends congratulations to the newlyweds.

Thus, Larry and Neva Larson are biological first cousins of the Amundson boys, including Glenn and Ray. Those are the two who ended up around Longview, Washington, and whose daughters (two each) were close childhood friends and playmates of mine.

I’m hoping for some input from Millie Amundson before I post my personal remembrances. Meanwhile, I worked backwards into the old country. So far, I have located primary sources, requiring only very likely assumptions, for the birth of Inar Amundson and both of his parents.

Somewhere on the Internet I found a birth date and place for Inar: 20 May 1884, Drammen, Norway. That agrees roughly with his age in the 1920 US census, which also lists that he immigrated in 1893. From there, I found my way to the churchbooks at Norway’s digitalarkivet, with help from the FamilySearch indexes.

Einar (Inar Amundson*),
b. 20 May 1884 Jensvoldstranden farm, Lier parish, Buskerud, Norway
Christened 20 July 1884, Frogner church, Lier parish, Buskerud, Norway.
Father: Ole Amundsen, born 1846;
Mother: Petronelle Rasmussen, born 1844
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* Surname not noted in churchbook; in the old country tradition, it would have been Olsen, not Amundson. It was unusual to find the parents’ ages in a birth record, but helpful – even though they are only approximate.

Ole Amundsen of Drammen age 26-1/2,
Petrinelle Rasmusdatter Linnonvolden
(Linne?) age 31
Married 05 Sept 1872, Lier, Buskerud, Norway; Residence: Jensvold
Groom’s father: Amund Olsen, bride’s father: Rasmus Pedersen*
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*Those fathers’ names were crucial in finding both Ole’s and Petronelle’s birth records. The 1865 census data was also needed to connect the dots. By the 1860′s, more people moved in and out of parishes, thanks to railroads and steam-powered vessels. For the most part, they were attracted to the urban areas like Drammen, thanks to the Industrial Revolution. Country or city, these are mostly very poor people, like nearly all who emigrated.

Ole Amundsen b. 15 Apr. 1846,
Strømsnaes farm, Grue parish, Hedmark, Norway
chr. 31 May 1846, Grue, Hedmark, Norway*
Father: Amund Olsen; Mother: Thore Eriksdatter
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*1865 census lists Ole Amundsen, age 20, living in Drammen; his birthplace is Grue.

Petronelle Rasmusdatter b. 23 Sep. 1841,
Ljaastad Eie*, Lier, Buskerud, Norway
Christened 31 Oct. 1841, Lylling church, Lier, Buskerud, Norway
Father: (husmann) Rasmus Pedersen; Mother: Marte Olsdatter Ljaastad
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* The “eie” after the farm name is the suffix for “belonging to,” indicating a tenant farm, where the farmer had no ownership and limited rights. These farmers were called husmenn.

1865 Census summary:

Local Parish: Frogner, Parish: Lier, Farm: Lian nordre*
Amund Olsen, widower, Housefather, Renter, Day-laborer,
age 46, birthplace Grue.
Ole Amundsen, son, age 20; three female siblings 17, 11, 8.
*”farm” by this era did not necessarily mean a rural subsistence property, but also a suburban or urban land holding.

Local Parish: Braegernes, Municipality: Drammen, instead of a farm name is an individuals name: [Signature of?] Wilh(elm?) Gutzeit. Must be a German?
Petronelle Rasmusdatter, unmarried, age 26, servant (on large staff) under Wilh. Gutzeit, age 60: wholesaler, exporter, and head of Portugese Wine Council (!! “gute Zeit” is German for – literally – “good time!”) But besides his interest in Portugese wine, Gutzeit was involved in the forest products and mining industries.

Stay tuned for later, and possibly earlier, generations.