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The Pilgrim Connection

Thursday, December 17th, 2009

Apropos to  the holiday season, I busted open a whole new package of my ancestors, related through my maternal grandfather, Dan Myers.  Exploring for the first time the pedigree of Helen Colby Myers, Dan’s mother, it turned out that the Colby line (along with lines of several of their spouses) goes straight back to Massachusetts in the early 1600’s; that is, the first decades after the Mayflower. The Mayflower itself landed in 1620; I did not find any of these ancestors on that famous passenger list (numerous other ships soon followed), but at least eight of them were born in Massachusetts colony during the next 30 years. Several branches can be traced back to England, at least one of them to Medieval European royalty.

I checked with cousin Gail Myers; this connection was news even to him. I continued working on this thread after a Christmas break.

Pilgrim Connection Update

Friday, January 15th, 2010

The most prominent of my “post-Pilgrim” ancestors is Anthony Colby.

Anthony Colby

Anthony Colby

He came from England in 1630 on a ship of the “Winthrop fleet.”  House of Names mentions Anthony Colby and wife Susanna (Haddon?) settling in Salem, Mass. in that year.

Colby house

Anthony Colby’s house in Amesbury, Mass.



These are the eight ancestors of Helen Colby Myers born in New England during the first 35 years of European settlement:

John Colby (Helen’s 5th great-grandfather) b. 8 Sept. 1633, Boston. Son of Anthony Colby and Susanna.

Frances Hoyt (5th great-grandmother) b. 1636 in Salisbury, Mass. Parents John Hoyt and Frances Jewell both came from England. Married John Colby.

William Eldridge, alt. Eldred (5th g. grandfather) b. 4 Sept. 1627, Yarmouth, Mass. Parents Thomas Eldred and Anne Watson both came from England.

Anne Lumpkin (5th g. grandmother) b. 1631, Yarmouth, Mass. Parents William Lumpkin and Thomasin (Constable?) both came from England. Parents apparently returned to England eventually. Married William Eldridge.

Mary Rowell (4th g. grandmother) b. 3 Jan 1649 in Salisbury, Mass. Parents Valentine Rowell and Joanna Pinder came from England and were married in Mass. Colony. After a “morals offense,” Mary Rowell married Thomas Frame, who had earlier come from England as an indentured servant.

John Folsom (4th g. grandfather) b. 3 Oct. 1641 in Hingham, Plymouth, Mass. Parents John Folsom and Mary Gilman both came from England.

Abigail Perkins (4th g. grandmother) b. 12 Apr. 1655 in Hampton, New Hampshire. Parents Abraham Perkins and Mary Wyeth both came from England. Married John Folsom. Perkins ancestry is traced back to medieval royalty, which means there are hundreds of them, including William the Conqueror, Henry I of France, Charlemagne, even Judith Martel. And a huge cast of kings, princes, dukes, and counts of England, France, Germany, Spain, Italy, with tendrils even back into Scandinavia via Russia. Mind you, these are all direct ancestors, 20-30 somethingth great grandfather/mother of Dan Myers. I’m still working on this. So far, Dan Myers’ pedigree has grown from 36 individuals to over 1,000. Some of the new ones, maybe a third, were already in my data, the rest I added in the course of this project.

All of these ancestors have been verified in additional sources, besides “One World Tree.”  They are listed, for example, in the following 4-Volume set:

Reference source

Reference source

A new internet cousin, Nancy Hallberg (approx. 8th cousin) has sent me excerpts from “Fifty Great Migration Colonists …” by John Brooks Threlfall, 1990, which gave us the “morals offense” of Thomas and Mary, among other details.

Pilgrims Galore – with scandal

Thursday, January 7th, 2010

Those Pilgrims just keep on giving! I first found the connection, and those first 70 ancestors, on my last shift at the LDS center before holiday break. Later, I found another 20-30 direct ancestors via the same Colby – New England connection (ancestors of Dan Myers). There is one line that goes back to the 1300’s in France, where it hits royalty. You know what that means – we can followed this one well back into the first milennium C.E. Many of the characters in the Ancient History pages were traced from that early New Englander, Abigail Perkins. Unfortunately, the Perkins pedigree, via John II deDreux (1238-1305) is highly controversial and may be spurious. Even so, I still feel connected to those stories in a personal way.

Meanwhile, some verification is trickling in on my earlier finds. Here is a detail to add to our “skeletons in the closet.”  These ancestors are already entered in the “full pedigree” online (go to Dan Myers after you click here).

My 7th great-grandparents, Thomas Frame(1649-1708) and Mary Rowell, had an affair that  “… precipitated a hasty marriage on  18 Sept. 1673. For this morals offense, he was sentenced to be “whipped 15 stripes, unless he pay a fine of 4 pounds,” and she was to be “whipped 10 stripes, or pay a fine of 40 shillings.”

Ouch! I am guessing the “morals offence” was merely premarital sex resulting in pregnancy, but there may have been more to it. The source, “Fifty Great Migration Colonists …” by John Brooks Threlfall, 1990, gives no further details. Oh, those Puritans!